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A slightly different version of this paper will appear shortly in TICS.
Recent advances in the cognitive neuroscience of action have considerably enlarged our understanding of human motor cognition. In particular, the activity of the mirror system, first discovered in the brain of non-human primates, provides an observer with the understanding of a perceived action by means of the motor simulation of the agent’s observed movements. This discovery has raised the prospects of a “motor theory of social cognition”. Human social cognition includes the ability to mindread, which in turn plays a crucial role in human communication. Thus, many motor theorists of social cognition try to bridge the gap between human motor cognition and human mindreading by endorsing a simulation account of human mindreading. We are skeptical about both the simulation account of human mindreading and the prospects of a motor theory of social cognition. As we shall argue in the first section of this paper, much of our skepticism about the simulation account of human mindreading stems from the fact that the concept of simulation involved in simulation accounts of human mindreading so far is a mongrel concept. The rest of the paper will be devoted to explaining why we are skeptical about the prospects of a motor theory of social cognition.
1. Mental simulation: a hybrid concept
Mental simulation, of which motor simulation is but an instance, is a hybrid concept: it involves at least two separable ingredients. One idea is that a cognitive mechanism may be used “off-line”. For example, it has been suggested (by e.g., Currie, 1995) that in visual imagery, the human visual system is used off-line: instead of taking retinal inputs, it receives inputs from memory. Instead of producing a visual percept, it produces a mental visual image. Thus, visual imagery consists in simulating visual perception or, as Gallese and Goldman (1998) put it, “in pretending to see” (p. 497).[1]
The other idea is that mental simulation is the cognitive basis of imitation. As we shall argue next, one natural assumption is that the firing of MNs in the pre-motor cortex is the neural basis of motor imitation. MNs have been discovered in the brain of macaque monkeys. The question arises: do they imitate? Until recently, the evidence seemed negative (Tomasello and Call, 1997). But there is intriguing new positive evidence (Kumashio et al., 2003). Interestingly, simulation theorists (ST) of mindreading have taken two different, if not irreconcilable, positions on imitation. On the one hand, Gallese and Goldman (1998) have strongly denied that a function of MNs is “to promote learning by imitation” (p. 495-6). On the other hand, they have stressed the importance of imitation in tasks of third-person mindreading: “ST depicts mindreading as incorporating an attempt to replicate, mimic, or impersonate the mental life of the target agent” (p. 497).
The main problem with imitation is that it is a folk psychological concept whose boundaries are presently too ill-defined for scientific purposes. Newborn babies, who reproduce facial movements of lip and tongue protrusion, have been said to imitate (Meltzoff and Moore, 1997). And so have 18 month old toddlers, who have been shown to be able to produce a correct version of an action of which they have observed an aborted version (Meltzoff, 1995). Does imitation reduce to copying? Or does imitation allow creative interpretation? Unless this ambiguity is resolved, it is hard to evaluate Meltzoff and Decety’s (2003) claim that “motor imitation” is “the missing link” between MNs and “theory of mind”. If imitation requires copying, then, unlike observable behavior, beliefs cannot be imitated for they cannot be copied. If imitation is not restricted to copying and if creative interpretation is allowed as part of imitation, then perhaps even beliefs could be imitated. But one cannot have it both ways.
2. The discovery of MNs: a great discovery
Motor theories of human cognition are ubiquitous. Our main topic is the motor theory of social cognition. The remarkable discovery of so-called “mirror neurons” (MNs) in the ventral pre-motor cortex (area F5) of macaque monkeys (Rizzolatti et al., 1996; Rizzolatti et al., 2000; Rizzolatti et al., 2004) and the discovery of the mirror system in humans (Rizzolatti et al., 1996; Grafton et al., 1996; Decety et al., 1997; Fadiga et al., 1995) have raised the prospects of a motor theory of social cognition, whose goal is to derive much (if not all) of human social cognition from human motor cognition (Gallese, 2003; Wolpert et al., 2003; Blakemore and Decety, 2001; Metzinger and Gallese, 2003). MNs are sensori-motor neurons that fire both when a monkey executes certain kinds of actions and when the monkey perceives the same actions being performed by another (Rizzolatti et al., 1996; Rizzolatti et al., 2000; Rizzolatti et al., 2004). The discharge of mirror neurons in area F5 of the ventral pre-motor cortex of macaque monkeys has been recorded when the monkey alternatively sees, hears and both sees and hears a transitive noisy hand action (Keysers et al. 2003, Kohler et al. 2003). This evidence suggests that MNs are cross-modal sensori-motor neurons. The activity of MNs has also been recorded when the monkey perceives a transitive hand action whose target is being occluded towards the end of action observation (Rizzolatti et al., 2001). This evidence shows that visual access to object-hand interaction is not necessary for eliciting the discharge of mirror neurons. Transitive ingestive mouth actions also elicit the discharge of MNs. So far, it is not known whether intransitive (communicative) mouth actions elicit the discharge of MNs in the monkey (Ferrari et al., 2003).[2] In humans, evidence from brain imaging reveals that the mirror system can be elicited by the execution and the perception of a much wider class of perceptible actions including not only “intransitive” hand and mouth actions (not directed towards a manipulable target), but also pantomimes of hand actions( Rizzolatti, et al. 1996; Grafton et al., 1996; Decety et al., 1997).
By automatically matching the agent’s observed movements onto her own motor repertoire without executing them, the firing of MNs in the observer’s brain simulates the agent’s observed movements and thereby contributes to the understanding of the perceived action (Rizzolatti et al., 1996; Rizzolatti et al., 2000; Rizzolatti et al., 2004). Thus, MNs supply motor, not purely perceptual, representations of actions. Because they are located in the pre-motor cortex, MNs should not fire in an observer’s brain unless the represented action were executable, i.e., consistent with the rules of the motor system (Decety and Jeannerod, 1996; Jeannerod, 2001). We therefore think that one important function of MNs might be to enhance learning technical skills by allowing motor imitation, i.e., reproducing an observed motor sequence (Rizzolatti et al., 2000; Jacob and Jeannerod, 2003, ch. 7).[3] However, we are skeptical about the view that MNs constitute the fundamental neural basis of human social cognition.
3. Human social cognition and mindreading
In a weak sense, human social cognition encompasses all cognitive processes relevant to the perception and understanding of conspecifics (Blakemore et al., 2004). So it includes, but it is not restricted to, the cognitive processes involved in the understanding of perceived actions performed by conspecifics. It is widely recognized that what is distinctive of human social cognition is the human mindreading ability to understand, not just the observable behavior of one’s conspecifics, but also one’s own mind (which we shall ignore here) and especially the minds of others (Baron-Cohen, 1995; Leslie and Thaiss, 1992; Frith and Frith, 2003; Saxe et al., 2004).[4] Thanks to their mindreading ability, healthy human adults readily explain and predict human actions by representing and attributing to human agents a whole battery of internal unobservable mental states such as goals, intentions, emotions, perceptions, desires, beliefs, many of which are far removed from any observable behavior (Gopnik and Wellman, 1994). It is also intuitively clear that there is a gap between full-blown human mindreading and the psychological understanding of perceived actions afforded by MNs. Thus, the challenge faced by motor theorists of social cognition is to bridge this gap.
Faced with this challenge, the strategy favored by motor theorists of social cognition is to tinker with the concept of motor simulation, as suggested by simulation theorists of mindreading (Gallese, 2003; 2004; Metzinger and Gallese, 2003; Blakemore and Decety, 2001; Gordon, 1995; Goldman, 1995). We disapprove this strategy because it relaxes the fundamental link between simulation and the requirements of the motor system, which we take very seriously. The firing of MNs is a social cognitive process only in a very weak sense. When MNs fire in the brain of a monkey during action execution, the discharge is not a social cognitive process at all. When MNs fire in the brain of a monkey watching another grasp a fruit, the discharge is a weakly social process: the two monkeys are not involved in any kind of non-verbal intentional communication. The agent intends to grasp a fruit, not to impart some information to his conspecific. Nor does the observer’s understanding of the action require him to understand the agent’s communicative intention (because the agent has none).
One way to question the motor theory of social cognition would be to challenge it to account for the human capacity to read one’s own mind or to ascribe false beliefs to others — something that healthy human adults do all the time without effort. But this is not what we shall do. Instead, we shall grant that simulating an agent’s movements may be sufficient for understanding his motor intention, but we shall argue that it is not sufficient for understanding the agent’s prior intention, his social intention and his communicative intention. Then, we shall argue that motor simulation might not even be necessary for understanding all perceived actions. Finally, we shall argue that a significant part of human social cognition is comprised of a “perceptual social” system whose neural basis has perceptual but no motor properties (Allison et al., 2000; Jacob and Jeannerod, 2003, ch. 7).
4. Motor simulation, motor intentions and prior intentions
Evidence from brain imaging in healthy adults and autistic individuals suggests that reasoning about beliefs and representing goals and intentions are subserved by different brain areas (Frith and Frith, 2003; Saxe et al., 2004). Evidence from developmental psychology suggests that the former is a later and more costly accomplishment than the latter (Baron-Cohen, 1995; Leslie and Thaiss, 1992; Leslie and Polizzi, 1998). An action is a goal-directed sequence of bodily movements initiated and monitored by what we shall call a “motor intention”. Understanding a perceived action requires at least representing the agent’s motor intention. Although human adults readily explain actions by representing agents’ (true or false) beliefs, it is possible, by relying on one’s own current perception of the world, to represent the goal of a perceived action or the agent’s motor intention without representing an agent’s (true) beliefs. By simulating the agent’s perceived movements, the observer may represent the agent’s motor intention.
Indeed, before they can reason about beliefs, young children can represent goals and intentions (Frith and Frith, 2003; Saxe et al., 2004). After having been habituated to seeing a reach-and-grasp hand movement, five- to eight month-old infants look longer when the target of the prehension movement changes than when the path of the hand movement changes (Woodward, 1998). However, when grasping by a human hand is replaced by the motion of an artefact, e.g., a metal claw, the pattern of preference elicited by seeing the movement of the human hand disappears (Woodward, 1998). This is compatible with the hypothesis that infants represent the goal of the action and the agent’s motor intention by matching the observed hand movement onto their own motor repertoire, i.e., by motor simulation.
Philosophers, however, have long emphasized the distinction between basic actions and non-basic actions: for example, the non-basic action of turning on the light can be performed by the basic action of pressing a switch. They also make the correlative distinction between motor intentions (or “intentions in action”) and “prior” intentions whose goals are more remote (Searle, 1983; Pacherie, 2000). A motor intention is an intention to execute a basic action. Given one’s prior intention to execute the non-basic action of turning on the light, one forms the motor intention to perform the basic action of e.g., pressing the switch with one’s right index finger. Perceiving the basic action of pressing the switch with the right index finger automatically causes the observer to entertain the very motor representation that guides the agent’s execution of the action. By executing the basic action, the agent also performs the non-basic action of turning on the light. The agent’s basic action is controlled by his motor intention. His non-basic action is controlled by his prior intention.
By pressing the switch downwards with one’s right index finger, one might turn on the light. But by executing the same motor sequence, one might also (depending on the electrical set up) turn the light off. If so, then representing an agent’s motor intention to press the switch downwards with his index finger will not allow the observer to figure out the agent’s prior intention. In order to move from representing the agent’s motor intention to representing his prior intention, the observer needs at least to know whether the light was off or on prior to the agent’s action. We surmise that by simulating the agent’s perceived movement of pressing the switch with his right index finger, an observer will understand the agent’s motor intention to execute the basic action, not his prior intention to execute the non-basic action.
5. Motor simulation and understanding social intentions
Not all human actions are directed towards inanimate targets. Some are directed towards conspecifics. In addition to the distinction between motor intentions and prior intentions, an agent’s non-social intentions must be distinguished from his social intentions, i.e., his intentions to act on conspecifics, who, unlike inanimate targets of action, can act back. Thus, a social intention is an intention to affect a conspecific’s behavior. Since humans often act out of their mental representations, a social intention may also be an intention to modify a conspecific’s mental representations. The question is: could an observer represent an agent’s social intention by simulating the agent’s observed movements? As the following little thought-experiment will show, it is unlikely that what enables an observer to represent an agent’s social intention is the observer’s ability to match an agent’s perceived movements onto her own motor repertoire.
Consider Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. The former is a renowned surgeon who performs appendectomies on his anesthestized patients. The latter is a dangerous sadist who performs exactly the same hand movements on his non-anesthestized victims. As it turns out, Mr Hyde is Dr Jekyll. Suppose that Dr Watson witnesses both Dr Jekyll’s and Mr Hyde’s actions. Upon perceiving Dr Jekyll alias Mr Hyde execute twice the same motor sequence whereby he grasps his scalpel and applies it to the same bodily part of two different persons, presumably the very same MNs produce the same discharge in Dr Watson’s brain. Dr Jekyll’s motor intention is the same as Mr Hyde’s. However, Dr Jekyll’s social intention clearly differs from Mr Hyde’s: whereas Dr Jekyll intends to improve his patient’s medical condition, Mr Hyde intends to derive pleasure from his victim’s agony. By matching them onto her own repertoire, an observer simulates the agent’s movements. Simulating the agent’s movements may allow an observer to represent the agent’s motor intention. We surmise that it will not allow her to represent the agent’s social intention.
6. Motor simulation and understanding communicative intentions
MNs were first discovered in the context of motor and perceptual tasks that had a very weak social content, if any. As recognized by philosophers, psychologists and linguists studying pragmatics, especially complex among a human agent’s social intentions are his (reflexive or self-referential) communicative intentions. Whether verbally expressed or not, a communicative intention is an intention to impart information by virtue of its own recognition by the addressee (Grice, 1989; Sperber and Wilson, 1986). Jill may have the communicative intention to let Bill know that his wife is unfaithful to him by telling him. If so, then Bill will not acquire the belief that his wife is unfaithful to him unless he recognizes that Jill intended him to believe it by telling him. But Jill may also have the social intention to cause Bill to believe that his wife is unfaithful to him without Bill’s recognizing Jill’s social intention. Bill may well acquire the belief that his wife is unfaithful to him as a result something Jill did without Bill’s recognizing Jill’s social intention. If so, then Jill’s social intention is not a communicative intention.
Now, consider Jill’s non-verbal communicative intention whereby she intends to convey to John her desire to leave the party by ostensively pointing her index finger onto her wrist-watch in front of John. John thereby acquires the belief that Jill wants to leave the party by recognizing her communicative intention. Jill may, however, execute the very same ostensive bodily movement if she wants John to believe instead that her watch is inaccurate. Simulating Jill’s movement of her right index finger towards her left wrist will allow John to represent Jill’s motor intention. But it will not allow him to distinguish between Jill’s two communicative intentions.
7. Why motor simulation may not be necessary for understanding all perceived actions
Simulating an agent’s observed movements is not sufficient for representing either an agent’s prior intention or his social intention. Is it necessary? Evidence from developmental psychology suggests that it is not. Upon perceiving their relative motions, 9 month old infants automatically ascribe goals to moving geometrical stimuli (Gergely et al., 1995; Csibra et al., 1999). The question is: why do they ascribe goals to moving geometrical stimuli, not to a metal claw moving towards a standing inanimate target (Woodward, 1998)?
It has long been known that perceiving the relative motions of geometrical stimuli (e.g., circles and triangles) with no human or animal aspect may prompt normal adults to ascribe to the moving stimuli emotions and social intentions that they describe using intentional verbs such “chase”, “corner”, “attack”, “caress” or “comfort” (Heider and Simmel, 1943; Castelli et al., 2000). There is also evidence that three to four year old toddlers respond like adults to the perception of Heider and Simmel type of stimuli (Berry and Springer, 1993). Recently, when showed a triangle and a square whose motions were automatically seen respectively as “helping” and as “hindering” a circle move up a slope, 12 month old infants exhibited a clear preference for the former over the latter (Kuhlmeier et al., 2003).
Seeing the biological movement of a human hand reach and grasp a target prompts a human observer to represent the agent’s motor intention by automatically matching the perceived movement onto her own motor repertoire (Woodward, 1998). Given the asymmetry between a moving human hand and its inanimate target, perceiving the action elicits the attribution of a motor intention, not of a social intention, to the agent. By contrast, geometrical stimuli form a homogeneous class of entities. Seeing geometrical stimuli move in relation to one another causes in humans a “perceptual social illusion”, i.e., an illusion of social interactions guided by social intentions (Gergely et al., 1995; Csibra et al., 1999; Heider and Simmel, 1943; Castelli et al., 2000). But given that the motion of geometrical stimuli is non-biological, it follows that the process whereby social intentions are represented and ascribed cannot be by matching the observed motions onto one’s own motor repertoire, i.e., by simulation in the narrow sense. Clearly, the process whereby geometrical stimuli are ascribed social intentions cannot be motor simulation.
Many social interactions are actions at a distance that involve an agent’s head- and eye-movements towards or away from, but no direct bodily contact with, a conspecific. On the one hand, by the age of 7 months, human infants expect human interactions, unlike causal relations between inanimate objects, not to involve bodily contact (Spelke et al., 1995). On the other hand, much evidence from single cell recordings in the brain of macaque monkeys and from brain imaging in human adults suggests the existence of a purely perceptual system of “social perception” (Allison et al., 2000; Jacob and Jeannerod, 2003, ch. 7) that can be tricked by perceptual illusions (the hallmark of perceptual systems). It involves the cooperation between at least three brain areas: the Superior Temporal Sulcus (STS), the amygdala and the orbito-frontal cortex (Allison et al., 2000; Adolphs, 1999; Adolphs et al., 1998; Perrett et al., 1982; Perrett et al., 1989; Jacob and Jeannerod, 2003, ch. 7). Unlike neurons in F5 and in the inferior parietal lobule, which fire in response to the perception of object-oriented actions, many neurons in STS respond to the perception of others’ actions directed towards conspecifics: they lack motor properties (Rizzolatti et al., 2000; Keysers and Perrett (2004) and they do not respond to the perception of one’s own movements (Hietanen and Perrett, 1993; Hietanen and Perrett, 1996).
There is a good reason why the perceptual response to a perceived action directed towards a conspecific would lack motor properties. The inanimate target of an object-oriented action does not act. As a result, the only movements which an observer can automatically match onto his own motor repertoire are the agent’s. If, however, the target of a perceived action is a conspecific, then he or she will react. But then, the observer will simply be unable to automatically and simultaneously match onto his own motor repertoire the perceived movements of both agents. Only if he intentionally neglects one of the agent’s observed movements will the observer be able to simulate the other’s movements. This may be a case of motor simulation, but it is an intentional, not an automatic, process. An observer’s motor system has the cognitive resources to automatically and simultaneously match the observed movements of an agent performing a transitive (object-directed) or intransitive action, but not a pair of observed movements performed by two interacting agents.
Conclusion
The mirror system is the mechanism whereby an observer understands a perceived action by simulating, without executing, the agent’s observed movements. The motor properties of the mirror system are well designed for representing an agent’s motor intention involved in an object-oriented action, not for representing an agent’s prior intention, let alone his social (and his communicative) intentions. The mirror system does not seem well designed for promoting fast responses to the perception of social actions directed towards conspecifics. For example, in response to the perception of a threat, it may be adaptive to flee, not to simulate the threatening agent’s observed movements. Evidence from single cell recordings in the monkey STS shows that observing many actions towards conspecifics prompts purely perceptual responses without motor properties. Important for future research are questions relevant to the assessment of the scope of the primate system for pure “social perception”: for example, would a male monkey respond to the perception of a female’s behavioral response to his own courting behavior by matching her observed movements? We predict that it would not.
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[1] On our view, Gallese’s (2004) stimulating target paper and its subsequent discussion corroborate our suspicion that the analogy between the dual activity of MNs in the pre-motor cortex of macaque monkeys and the dual activity of the human primary visual areas in both perception and imagery is not enough to support the claim that a concept of “embodied” simulation primarily based on this analogy has the resources to offer insight into other minds (experiential or otherwise). The rest of this paper is an argument for our suspicion.
[2] As we note in Jacob and Jeannerod (2003, ch. 7) and as noted by Gallese (2003) and Sperber in discusion of Gallese’s (2004) target paper, MNs would seem to qualify as a system of (proto-) conceptual representations, whose activity can be turned on both by the execution and the perception of the actions being represented.
[3] As we said in section 1, motor imitation in monkeys does yet seem to be a settled issue.
[4] Contrary to what Gallese (2004) assumes, we do not think that accepting the fact that mindreading is an important part of human social cognition entails that human “social cognition is only explicitly reasoning about the contents of someone else’s mind”. |
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Many thanks
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Pierre Jacob, Dec 21, 2004 15:09 UT
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Grasping social intentions
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Ingar Brinck, Dec 17, 2004 21:11 UT
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Individual difference data?
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John Watson, Dec 8, 2004 23:31 UT
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Levels of Sociality
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Cristiano Castelfranchi, Dec 7, 2004 18:14 UT
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models of communication
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Douglas Galbi, Dec 7, 2004 15:17 UT
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Intentional vs. unintentional gestures
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Meghan Meyer, Dec 7, 2004 2:54 UT
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Closing the gap between motor cognition and mindreading 
Robert Gordon
Dec 4, 2004 5:10 UT
Jacob and Jeannerod are surely right in saying that "there is a gap between full-blown human mindreading and the psychological understanding of perceived actions afforded by MNs." In support, they note the ambiguity of the actions likely to be picked up by a mirroring system such as MN's.
The gap they point to is basically one that calls for a process of disambiguation. That is very different from the gap that had seemed to exist before MN's and other mirroring systems (e.g., in somatic responses to facial expressions) were discovered. Essentially, that was the Cartesian "other minds" gap, the one Descartes remarked on between our perception of other human bodies and our attribution of thoughts, i.e., what philosophers today would call conscious mental states.
Jacob and Jeannerod write:
simulating an agent's movements may be sufficient for understanding his motor intention, but ... it is not sufficient for understanding the agent's prior intention, his social intention and his communicative intention.
My question to them is this: Which is more readily embedded into an intentional scheme of reasons and purposes, a motor intention -- or a "cold" perception of an external body in motion, i.e., one that does not directly activate our own motor systems (much less activate them in a way that matches the behavior observed)? For which are we more likely to seek a reason - a practical reason, that is, or a purpose or goal?
If you answer, "the motor intention," then you agree that the gap between perception and mindreading has grown smaller since MN's were discovered. You should probably also agree that the gap that remains is most likely one that will be closed by first person processes of the sort that direct our own behavior, such as practical reasoning, emotion formation, and decision making.
**** Minor point: Jacob and Jeannerod also argue that "motor simulation might not even be necessary for understanding all perceived actions." I suspect they are right about that, and that they might be right in claiming that infants' response to moving geometrical stimuli is a counterexample. However, just reflecting on my own responses to Heider-type movies, I can vouch that could certainly get me worked up first-personally, my muscles tensed as if to help the little triangle or square get away from the big one. So, perhaps not motor simulation, but other "sympathetic" motor phenomena, perhaps of the sort studied by Wolfgang Prinz and others, may be operating.
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12 replies to Closing the gap between motor cognition and mindreading:
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Communication and Mindreading
Robert Gordon, Dec 21, 2004 19:14 UT
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Reply to Roberto Gordon’s “Mindreading and fitness”
Pierre Jacob, Dec 19, 2004 10:07 UT
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Response to Hugo Mercier’s “Mindreading and brain imagery”
Pierre Jacob, Dec 17, 2004 21:00 UT
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Mindreading and fitness
Robert Gordon, Dec 17, 2004 20:40 UT
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Response to Gordon’s “Simulation uses theory as data”
Pierre Jacob, Dec 11, 2004 10:47 UT
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Simulation uses theory as data
Robert Gordon
Dec 9, 2004 22:07 UT
I greatly appreciate Pierre Jacob’s constructive and generous response. His latest comment goes a long way toward focusing the discussion on the few points on which we still disagree.
The chief remaining concern for Jacob is that according to my account, a simulation procedure for hypothesis testing may crucially rely on “theoretical” assumptions, e.g., about a surgeon’s reputation and scripts for medical and ethical conduct. He raises two distinct but related questions. First, why call it a simulation account rather than a theoretical account, if both methods are employed? Second, doesn’t the dual employment show that the contrast between the two accounts of mindreading mostly (or entirely) evaporates? These questions deserve a much longer discussion, but I will do what I can in a few brief paragraphs.
When I proposed a simulation account as a possible alternative to a theory theory of mindreading (in 1986), my target was the view that a body of laws, learned or innate, would be required to mediate between what it was voguish to call input and output. These laws – which collectively were thought to constitute a tacit “folk psychology” -- would be mechanically applied to predict behavior and, by hypothetico-deductive reasoning, to test explanatory hypotheses. Early formulations may have reflected a naïve view of what a theory is. However, they were efforts to solve the real problem of how it might be possible for mindreaders to bridge the gap between observations of people’s environment and observations of their behavior.
I thought there was an alternative way of bridging that gap. One might use basically the same neural systems that guide our own behavior and adapt it to the environment. Rather than describing a system that might bridge the gap between the other’s environment and behavior, we implement such a system. The only information we would need to introduce is information about differences between the other and oneself – that is, differences that are likely to be relevant to prediction. (To apply a belief-desire-action law predictively, you would need additional data. For example, does Dr. Jekyll believe that drawing a scalpel across skin will cut it? You would have to add the kind of commonsense background knowledge and belief one must feed AI programs in order to get them to converse like human beings. That is not required for simulation.)
Simulation requires only information about relevant differences. Information about differences will often take the form of generalizations. Some of these will be rules for role behavior. If I am not a surgeon, I would need to know something about the standards of the profession. One may call this theoretical knowledge, but I would have to INTERNALIZE these standards. In addition, if I want to predict IN FINE DETAIL a surgeon’s behavior as he operates, I had better gain some theoretical understanding of the cardiovascular system, among other things. In short, some of the “difference information” fed into my simulation procedure will be theoretical. Simulation uses theory as data.
To get back to Jacob’s questions. Even though simulation requires that one differentiate the other from oneself, and information about differences often takes the form of generalizations, including theoretical generalizations, I don’t think that shows that two mindreading methods – two ways of bridging between environment and behavior -- are being employed. Nor does it blur the contrast between the two accounts of mindreading.
Although we may still disagree, for me, this has been a very fruitful exchange, and again I thank Pierre for making it so.
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Misinterpretations of Bob Gordon corrected
Pierre Jacob, Dec 7, 2004 16:32 UT
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Correcting some misinterpretations
Robert Gordon, Dec 6, 2004 21:14 UT
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Mindreading and brain imagery
Hugo Mercier, Dec 6, 2004 18:37 UT
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Response to Robert Gordon’s Reply
Pierre Jacob, Dec 6, 2004 8:06 UT
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Reply to Pierre Jacob's Response
Robert Gordon, Dec 5, 2004 18:12 UT
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Response to Robert Gordon
Pierre Jacob, Dec 5, 2004 10:41 UT
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Two possible 'social' functions for MNs: Behavioral Communication and Coordination
(1 reply)
Cristiano Castelfranchi, Dec 3, 2004 15:27 UT
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But what are mirror neurons for?
(1 reply)
Gergely Csibra, Dec 1, 2004 16:00 UT
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